#22 12-04-2006, 09:45 AM
Sherrie Lea Laird
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I loved when Einstein said, 'there are two ways to go through life, one is that nothing is a miracle and the other is that everything is a miracle.'
that translates to me very very vividly like this...
there is a lady and in her stomach attached by a cord, is a pinkish see thru creature, with five pea pod like fingers and toes extensions, slits for eyes, two holes for a nose and a gaping orafix for a mouth, we then are pushed out of a opening in her body....Now honestly if that can happen once, on a ball that floats around in the atmosphere, then there ain't nothing to prove it doesn't happen again and again. Memories are more than random grabs at the universe akashic records. What would be the point. I believe in the akashic records, however why keep them if it isn't some sort of tally...just a butterfly collection of endlessness. How do we heal, how do we fix, what will change. Why bother if you get one kick at the ball and screw it up..or get dropped as a baby then die. A bit boring don't you think?
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#23 12-04-2006, 11:25 AM
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I believe in the akashic records, however why keep them if it isn't some sort of tally...just a butterfly collection of endlessness. How do we heal, how do we fix, what will change. Why bother if you get one kick at the ball and screw it up..or get dropped as a baby then die. A bit boring don't you think?
Yes, I used to think so. Reiki healing is rather interesting, though. My experience of Reiki healing energy was quite profound. Reiki looks a bit like the laying on of hands, but is in fact very different. At beginner level you just stand there trying to judge the flow of healing energy watching for when it stops. At the higher levels really trippy things happen, especially if we have bothered to study basic psychic awareness.
Pictures of past lives are readily seen by patients and healers. Some people hear voices, see angels, beings of light, even extraterrestrials. Definitely not boring. Very different. Often exciting. Sometimes moving.
It's like being in a vast library of infinite knowledge or a big movie theater. Like a kind of waking meditation. I'm sure even some Reiki Masters are completely unaware of what can happen during a healing session. Sometimes the patients are completely unaware of what is going on and sometimes they say they hear angels singing. It sounds a bit daft, but it's certainly different. It's all a matter of what we are willing to give and how open we are willing to be.
If anyone really enjoys weirdness, they will get a kick out of Reiki.
#24 12-05-2006, 12:41 AM
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Hi LifeStudent,
How do we define successful past life regressions? I have regressed people back to Ancient Egypt and beyond, but are they experiencing past life memories or screen memories? No-one has to my knowledge proved that past lives are real.
I define a successful regression as one that my clients (not patients, I am a healer, not a doctor) have personal lessons that are learned. All in all, that is the goal. It is not for me to say if a regression (even one that I have substantiated through geneology) is successful or not. My ultimate goal for my clients are for personal growth not entertainment.
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According to the Akashic Records there was no Bridey Murphy in Ireland. The Akashic Records are very specific.
To my knowlege, the Akashic Records have not been found and/or materialized. Until then, all talk of the records are purely personal belief, opinion and/or their own visions. You say there is no proof of reincarnation, but you speak of the Akashic Records like you have them in your dresser drawer. Both come from the same belief - no proof of either.
(Although I believe people have proved time and time again that reincarnation is valid)
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Is this possible in hypnotherapy? I'm keen to learn more.
Yes. Hypnotherapy is not a magic wand where someone 'does' something to someone and they have all the answers. Hypnotherapy is a way to slow the brain waves down, thereby accessing higher consciousness. There are many ways to achieve this. Hypnosis is a tool in the tool belt of life. I think you mentioned somewhere that you've hypnotized before. IMHO, I'd adequately get trained before performing hypnosis on clients in the future.
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Some people believe hypnosis actually goes far too deep and pulls out information that people are not ready for.
"Some people" could be many people without adequate knowledge to form a proper informed decision. "Believe" is the key word. Is this belief based on fact? Is the belief based on a bad experience from a hypnotist that wasn't adequately trained? I know from my training, and I am a trained, certified Hypnotherapist and certified in Past Life Regression (among others), that the word 'deep' as in your sentence is a moot point as 'too deep' or to the depth needed for regression doesn't mean anything. It is how the hypnotherapist directs the client/HS is what is important and what information is uncovered.
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In 1952, Colorado businessman and amateur hypnotist Morey Bernstein put housewife Virginia Tighe of Pueblo, Colorado in a trance that sparked off startling revelatons about Tighe's alleged past life as a 19th-century Irishwoman and her rebirth in the United States 59 years later. Bernstein used a technique called hypnotic regression, during which the subject is gradually taken back to childhood. He then attempted to take Virginia one step further, before birth, and suddenly was astonished to find he was listening to Bridey Murphy.
Her rambling tale began in 1806 when Bridey was eight years old and living in a house in Cork. She was the daughter of Duncan Murphy, a barrister, and his wife Kathleen. At the age of 17 she married lawyer Sean Brian McCarthy and moved to Belfast. Bridey told of a fall that caused her death and of watching her own funeral, describing her tombstone and the state of being in life after death. It was, she recalled, a feeling of neither pain nor happiness. Somehow, she was reborn in America, although Bridey was not clear how this event happened. Virginia Tighe herself was born in the Mid West in 1923, had never been to Ireland, and did not speak with even the slightest hint of an Irish accent.
The 'facts' related by Bridey were not fully checked before the publication of Bernstein's book The Search for Bridey Murphy. However, once the book had become a bestseller, almost every detail was thoroughly checked by reporters who were sent to Ireland to track down the background of the elusive woman. It was then that the first doubts about her 'reincarnation' began to appear. Bridey gave her date of birth as December 20, 1798, in Cork, and the year of her death as 1864. There was no official record of either event. Neither was there any record of a wooden house, called The Meadows, in which she said she lived. Indeed, most houses in Ireland were made of brick or stone. She pronounced her husband's name as 'See-an', but Sean is usually pronounced 'Shawn' in Ireland. Brian, which is what Bridey preferred to call her husband, was also the middle name of the man to whom Virginia Tighe was married. But some of the details did tally. For instance, he descriptions of the Antrim coastline were very accurate. So, too, was her account of a journey from Belfast to Cork. She claimed she went to a St. Theresa's Church. There was indeed one where she said there was - but it was not built until 1911. The young Bridey shopped for provisions with a grocer named Farr. It was discovered that such a grocer had existed.
Despite the many holes in Bridey's story, it was still a remarkably detailed account of life in 19th-century Ireland - information unlikely to have come the way of Virginia Tighe. The case was studied by psychiatrists and psychologists, who had used hypnosis in treatment for many years. Many subjects, in deep hypnosis, can be highly suggestible and will act on the slightest hint given to them, seeking to supply the answer they subconsciously believe the hypnotist wishes to hear. Such hypnosis is largely a matter of releasing relevant details from the brain's incredible capacity for storing information. For instance, the subject can speak in a foreign language not used since childhood, and in which they would not be able to converse in normal conscious life. A subject can even quote verbatim from a long-forgotten childhood book. However, someone under hypnosis is not automatically telling the truth even if they are seeking to give a satisfactory response. Bernstein admitted that, while she was under hypnosis, he did tell Virginia Tighe what he wanted, and it was then that she became Bridey Murphy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridey_Murphy
First of all, Wikipedia is a free range edit encyclopedia. I do not value anything that is written there as many can and will edit upon their beliefs. However, taken that some of those facts may be true, again, who is doing the regression as to not to mislead their clients is very important. There have been many documented pre-school children without experiences in life that have had regressions (what I call successful regressions) and those lives have been verified. Taking one example and basing your fact upon that I do feel you're more educated than that to base your opinion. I am not versed in all the details of the Murphy case and really won't comment on that one case.
All in all, Brian, I think we come from two forms of thought. I do past life regressions for personal growth. I also come from the belief that no one, but ones self can say who he/she has been. It serves no growth to tell someone who they've been. The growth comes from the experience. To visit a life just to find out if you're someone famous is not what I do.
My clients come for personal growth, sometimes go through emotions, but always come out with growth and understanding.
I hope I've answered some of your hypnosis concerns. One more thing. I noticed you mentioned you have hypnotized people in the past. I recommend you thoroughy be trained. Having a client have an abreaction in your office and not knowing how to properly respond is unethical and unsafe in my opinion.
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#25 12-05-2006, 02:47 AM
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To my knowlege, the Akashic Records have not been found and/or materialized. Until then, all talk of the records are purely personal belief, opinion and/or their own visions. You say there is no proof of reincarnation, but you speak of the Akashic Records like you have them in your dresser drawer. Both come from the same belief - no proof of either. (Although I believe people have proved time and time again that reincarnation is valid)
The Akashic Records do exist, whether we believe in their existence or not. Everybody has them in their dresser drawer. Just go there and take a look. A very useful tool to check that the information we get from hypnotherapy is valid and untainted. Information is distorted by congested chakra energy.
#26 12-05-2006, 02:55 AM
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"Some people" could be many people without adequate knowledge to form a proper informed decision. "Believe" is the key word. Is this belief based on fact?
If we investigate the Akashic Records thoroughly, then compare the information we get from hypnosis we would begin to learn a lot about how the mind distorts and misinterprets information.
We can do both of these things without the necessity of believing in either.
Our belief systems are only barriers to higher truths.
#27 12-05-2006, 03:09 AM
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The Akashic Records do exist, whether we believe in their existence or not. Everybody has them in their dresser drawer. Just go there and take a look. A very useful tool to check that the information we get from hypnotherapy is valid and untainted. Information is distorted by congested chakra energy.
I am aware that everyone has access to the Akashic Records inside themselves. I have seen them and successfully brought people to see theirs.
What I was merely pointing out is that somehow you seem to feel your view of the Akashic Records are more validating than others experience of their own past lives. You, as well as others, can get info distorted by chakra energy and all kinds of things for that matter.
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#28 12-05-2006, 03:13 AM
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If we investigate the Akashic Records thoroughly, then compare the information we get from hypnosis we would begin to learn a lot about how the mind distorts and misinterprets information.
We can do both of these things without the necessity of believing in either.
Our belief systems are only barriers to higher truths.
Well, I am not sure who 'we' is, but your statement is contradictory in my reading. In my business, Akashic Records are viewed while in hypnosis.
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#29 12-05-2006, 03:50 AM
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Well, I am not sure who 'we' is, but your statement is contradictory in my reading. In my business, Akashic Records are viewed while in hypnosis.
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Something is being viewed while in hypnosis. It certainly isn't the Akashic records in their entirety where we can see the past lives of everyone with ease. We just get distorted and limited glimpses along with a lot of emotion. We (meaning all of us) cannot view the Akashic Records using crude methods. It's like getting the money from our piggy banks using a crowbar.
Even simple devices like pendulums can help in these matters.
#30 12-05-2006, 03:56 AM
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As a layman who has experienced other conscious and subconscious states, who is not a hypnotist I wish to contribute what "I feel" when I am hypnotized, dreaming, when I meditate, get a reiki attunement, and when I "access" information, be they past lives, akashic records, spirit guides etc....
It is important to me in all of these states to notice the direction of energy flow. In addition to some vibratory state.
I find that the visuals come from a similar place and vibration no matter what practice I am engaged in, only the quality of the image changes depending on whether I am deeply in a state, such as when someone else hypnotizes me, or I am dreaming or in reiki.
As far as validity- I have always had a strong sense of inner truth and what is actually false, whether it be psychic images or actual people, events, photographs. So I do not need any other validation. I know I can just ask myself and trust what my higher self tells me.
My most vivid scenes of past lives have come from reiki and hypnosis.
2/3rd's of the world's population believes in reincarnation.
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#31 12-05-2006, 04:06 AM
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Something is being viewed while in hypnosis. It certainly isn't the Akashic records in their entirety where we can see the past lives of everyone with ease. We just get distorted and limited glimpses along with a lot of emotion. We (meaning all of us) cannot view the Akashic Records using crude methods. It's like getting the money from our piggy banks using a crowbar.
Even simple devices like pendulums can help in these matters.
By what authority do you have to tell someone that what they are seeing is not real and 'your' Akashic Records are more validating than that of someone else.
AND BTW.... Pendulum is one of the first thing a hypnotherapist learns in school and/or training. (and I don't mean look at the watch twirl) IT is an easy way to by-pass the critical factor to get to the subconscious mind. Pendulum work is not magic AND it's no different than hypnosis other than you questions are yes/no etc. Both allow the critical factor to become permeable allowing access to sub/subconscious.
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#32 12-05-2006, 04:09 AM
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As far as validity- I have always had a strong sense of inner truth and what is actually false, whether it be psychic images or actual people, events, photographs. So I do not need any other validation. I know I can just ask myself and trust what my higher self tells me.
My most vivid scenes of past lives have come from reiki and hypnosis.
2/3rd's of the world's population believes in reincarnation.
Our higher selves will provide us with only the information we can handle. It must be presented to us in an acceptable form or else we would reject it and no learning would take place. Over a period of time and development the information we get will change. It's very good to rely on and be guided by our higher selves.
Even our higher selves are a filtering system.
If we are Reiki healers we get extra energy and angelic support and there is less filtering.
#33 12-05-2006, 04:11 AM
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Something is being viewed while in hypnosis. It certainly isn't the Akashic records in their entirety where we can see the past lives of everyone with ease. We just get distorted and limited glimpses along with a lot of emotion. We (meaning all of us) cannot view the Akashic Records using crude methods. It's like getting the money from our piggy banks using a crowbar.
Even simple devices like pendulums can help in these matters.
How do you know that when you are having an experience and viewing the Akashic records as actual records you aren't experiencing distortion? Aren't you taking any beliefs you hold with you even if asking about someone else and even when you don't feel emotionally attached to the answer? A lot of people (I'm not saying you) have such insistence to there being a heirarchy and set ways of thinking about their own evolution and status and can that not distort what you see or receive even if you are reaching a very high level of awareness.
And I'm curious as to why you trust the pendulum. I have a friend who has amazing experiences using hers but I never use one myself because I don't trust myself not to influence the movement subconsciously. (oh and someone once told her that she could only use a gemstone. Such a fixed belief. She uses anything she wants and it's always interesting)
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#34 12-05-2006, 04:15 AM
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(oh and someone once told her that she could only use a gemstone. Such a fixed belief. She uses anything she wants and it's always interesting)
Anything on a string can be used as a pendulum. It's an ideomotor response. It's not what the pendulum is made of that is doing the work !!
*grin*
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#35 12-05-2006, 04:17 AM
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Our higher selves will provide us with only the information we can handle. It must be presented to us in an acceptable form or else we would reject it and no learning would take place. Over a period of time and development the information we get will change. It's very good to rely on and be guided by our higher selves.
Even our higher selves are a filtering system.
I understand this completely
I believe in reincarnation but then I think well aren't we all living every lifetime in reality.
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#36 12-05-2006, 04:18 AM
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Anything on a string can be used as a pendulum. It's an ideomotor response. It's not what the pendulum is made of that is doing the work !!
*grin*
exactly!
oh we sure had some fun when she was at work with her paperclip pendulum
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#37 12-05-2006, 04:19 AM
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By what authority do you have to tell someone that what they are seeing is not real and 'your' Akashic Records are more validating than that of someone else.
I am under certain obligations to pass on information. It's only information. It's up to you to decide whether it's helpful or not.
#38 12-05-2006, 04:26 AM
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I am under certain obligations to pass on information. It's only information. It's up to you to decide whether it's helpful or not.
I don't pass on past life info, I facilitate it. My clients are who comes to their own info. Even during a Reiki session (yes, I am a Reiki Master also) if I get visions, etc., I describe it and allow my clients to decipher. It is not for me to decide. I never 'tell' them anything.
Have a good night.
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#39 12-05-2006, 04:31 AM
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How do you know that when you are having an experience and viewing the Akashic records as actual records you aren't experiencing distortion?
Exactly!
If we are healers and have more chakra energy and angelic guidance, we feel more confident in our abilities. We get a lot of experience. Just go and learn Reiki.
Healing is the important thing. Visions, voices, past lives are just tools of the trade. They are there just to facilitate healing.
#40 12-05-2006, 04:37 AM
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I don't pass on past life info, I facilitate it. My clients are who comes to their own info. Even during a Reiki session (yes, I am a Reiki Master also) if I get visions, etc., I describe it and allow my clients to decipher. It is not for me to decide. I never 'tell' them anything.
Have a good night.
I agree. I prefer to get my clients to see past lives and angels for themselves. After that many want to become healers.
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#41 12-05-2006, 04:45 AM
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A lot of people (I'm not saying you) have such insistence to there being a heirarchy and set ways of thinking about their own evolution and status.
That's very unfortunate. Perhaps this kind of thinking is a temporary stage in some people's development. If people who think like this are healing people, they will get to understand the truth eventually.
#42 12-05-2006, 04:56 AM
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I am aware that everyone has access to the Akashic Records inside themselves. I have seen them and successfully brought people to see theirs.
What I was merely pointing out is that somehow you seem to feel your view of the Akashic Records are more validating than others experience of their own past lives. You, as well as others, can get info distorted by chakra energy and all kinds of things for that matter.
Yes this distortion will occur. I have experienced this myself and believe I know how to correct it. Perhaps that's ego talking. I just teach the skills and let others decide upon the validity of their experiences. It's just good that people are beginning to acknowledge that there can be distortion regarding all kinds of channeled information and psychic data.
#43 12-05-2006, 05:12 AM
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I understand this completely
I believe in reincarnation but then I think well aren't we all living every lifetime in reality.
If we change the last word to illusion, then that would probably be more appropriate.
#44 12-05-2006, 07:39 AM brianstalin
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As far as validity- I have always had a strong sense of inner truth and what is actually false, whether it be psychic images or actual people, events, photographs. So I do not need any other validation.
If we do not seek validation, then we lose the opportunity to explore and to grow. In order to validate what we and others see and experience, we must engage in processes that allow us to become more "enlightened".
UFOs and crop circles are part of a higher design prompting us on inner searches to find the answers. If we are too hasty when reaching conclusions about past lives, inner visions etc. we might cut off our desire to explore and grow further.
I believe we are being prompted at this important time by higher intelligences to seek validation.
That’s a 2012 thing.
If we reach hasty conclusions and slide them neatly into our current belief systems what do we do next?
#45 12-05-2006, 09:32 AM
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Do you believe what you believe?
Do you believe what you believe?
Is it Fact? Truth? or Faith?
Do you ever really stop yourself, and look at what it is you are doing here?
Posting pictures of people you don't even know, and then link them up with others you never knew down the time-line of humanity.....
because if you really did know them, you would respectfully have nothing to say about them.
I reiterate, brianstalin, ultimately what you have here is a tabloid view of incarnation, and re-incarnation down the time-line of humanity.
It's your call Buh-Buh. I am just making an observation here.
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#46 12-05-2006, 12:42 PM
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Do you believe what you believe?
Is it Fact? Truth? or Faith?
Our minds do not need to be restricted by belief or non-belief. Our psychic perceptions need total freedom from outside influences in order to function at their full potential.
#47 12-05-2006, 12:50 PM
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I reiterate, brianstalin, ultimately what you have here is a tabloid view of incarnation, and re-incarnation down the time-line of humanity.
Michael !!
You're great!!! Well put.
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#48 12-05-2006, 12:51 PM
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Do you ever really stop yourself, and look at what it is you are doing here?
Posting pictures of people you don't even know, and then link them up with others you never knew down the time-line of humanity.....
because if you really did know them, you would respectfully have nothing to say about them.
I reiterate, brianstalin, ultimately what you have here is a tabloid view of incarnation, and re-incarnation down the time-line of humanity.
It's your call Buh-Buh. I am just making an observation here.
Well, you must ask yourself why these things bother you.
Is it wrong to try to de-mystify reincarnation, especially when it has great healing potential and can accelerate spiritual growth. Other people have written books on reincarnation with facial comparisons. Perhaps it's a new trend. Part of our growing spiritual awareness.
As for not knowing these people down the time-line of history - Incorrect, I knew them all very well.
#49 12-05-2006, 01:02 PM
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Perhaps that's ego talking. I just teach the skills and let others decide upon the validity of their experiences.
Yes this is your ego talking. I'm glad you at least acknowledge that you have a large ego. Identifying the problem is a good beginning. By telling people what they are in a previous life and not being open to any others views is ego. Maybe your large ego is something that you have to learn to work on in this lifetime as a lesson. I suggestion a regression through hypnosis to find out what lessons you need to learn in hopes of progressing this lifetime.
Michael, do not stress yourself out. BS's contraindications show that he doesn't really have educated facts regarding reincarnation, hypnosis and the like. His opinions are based on wikipedia and other on line articles in which you can find anything in written form. Reiki is a great tool where the practitioner acts as an instrument, not a healer. People sometime forget this when the large ego gets in the way.
Have a great day.
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#50 12-05-2006, 01:25 PM
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Now you must ask yourself why you feel the need to attack me on a personal level. They do say people get jealous of other people's abilities. Surely you are not such a one? If I post a photo here will you be able to tell me all about that person's past lives? Can you tell me about that person's physical, emotional and mental problems? Would you accept that challenge?
These are just a few of the many essential tools used in healing.
Many of my students have far greater healing and psychic skills than I do.
I have already explained healing energy comes from the higher dimensions and healers are just channels. I'm open to other people's viewpoints and I am not afraid to contradict them and provide data to support another viewpoint.
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#51 12-05-2006, 01:49 PM
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My guides suggested I post a picture of Hemingway. He has given permission for anyone to look at the Akashic Records on his behalf. He wants to know just what went wrong or right during this lifetime on the Earth plane. He says he needs help to understand it.
This is open to anyone. Healer or non-healer.
Hemingway says these things are important for our Ascension.
There should be no ethical problems with this. If your own guides are unco-operative, perhaps they would post a picture of another candidate or explain their refusal to participate. Many souls on the other side have questions, too.
http://www.millionmagazines.com/hemingway.html
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#52 12-05-2006, 01:56 PM
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Now you must ask yourself why you feel the need to attack me on a personal level. They do say people get jealous of other people's abilities.
I apologize if you feel that was a personal attack. It was your post that initiated the talk about egos. Jealous of abilities? Umm, no. I feel that Reiki is NOT an ability. It is a gift that each and everyone carries around and has the ability as an instrument. And as far as the other stuff that you do with pictures, as I stated before, my work in regression is not for entertainment as yours is. Therefore, jealousy is surely nothing
that I hold. I'm sure your photo stuff has its place, just like stage hypnosis, but it's not something that I would be jealous of. I like parlor games as much as the next person. Again, my practice is for spiritual, and most often physical gain.
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Surely you are not such a one? If I post a photo here will you be able to tell me all about that person's past lives? Can you tell me about that person's physical, emotional and mental problems? Would you accept that challenge?
These are just a few of the many essential tools used in healing.
Many of my students have far greater healing and psychic skills than I do.
I have already explained healing energy comes from the higher dimensions and healers are just channels. I'm open to other people's viewpoints and I am not afraid to contradict them and provide data to support another viewpoint.
Surely, I am not one.. haha. (hmmm, this could be construed as a personal attack.) Up for challenge? ahaha... I need not prove to you anything of my work. I never stated I was 'a' psychic. Although everyone has psychic abilities. I am a hypnotherapist who has a clinical practice where one of the types of hypnosis I use is past life regression for the higher good for my clients.
As I stated before, we don't agree. I defend these boards as I have been here for 6 years and when I see attacks on people, especially new members, it concerns me which is why I stepped in on a subject that I saw errors in.
I just merely ask that you be open to others when they come to these boards and to be open that others truths are just that. Their truths. No need for challenges, tallying up proof or lining up past clients. Just be nice in the playground.
Have a great day. Enough said. Sending you much light for growth and understanding.
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#53 12-05-2006, 01:59 PM
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My guides suggested I post a picture of Hemingway. He has given permission for anyone to look at the Akashic Records on his behalf. He wants to know just what went wrong or right during this lifetime on the Earth plane. He says he needs help to understand it.
This is open to anyone. Healer or non-healer.
Hemingway says these things are important for our Ascension.
There should be no ethical problems with this. If your own guides are unco-operative, perhaps they would post a picture of another candidate or explain their refusal to participate. Many souls on the other side have questions, too.
http://www.millionmagazines.com/hemingway.html
Egaddds.... As I stated before. I don't play with photos!! hahah
Ethical problems??? - where did that one come from.
Uncooperative guides ??? - hahah. This makes me giggle.. no comment.
If souls on the other side have questions for me, ask them to use another channel !! They'll know who I mean
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#54 12-05-2006, 02:32 PM
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I never stated I was 'a' psychic. Although everyone has psychic abilities. I am a hypnotherapist who has a clinical practice where one of the types of hypnosis I use is past life regression for the higher good for my clients.
You did say that you were a Reiki Master. Wouldn't you use your psychic gifts to verify and explore the data from hypnotic states? Do you create Reiki channels and introduce them to their inner guidance etc?
I have seen Buddhist monks do readings from photographs. There's even a
Vietnamese temple that channels Jules Verne and others. I'm not sure if they should be doing that, but it isn't idle entertainment. It has been used in teaching. It is very instructive.
#55 12-05-2006, 02:42 PM
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I defend these boards as I have been here for 6 years and when I see attacks on people, especially new members, it concerns me which is why I stepped in on a subject that I saw errors in.
I just merely ask that you be open to others when they come to these boards and to be open that others truths are just that. Their truths. No need for challenges, tallying up proof or lining up past clients. Just be nice in the playground.
I recall offering help to someone who told me they knew someone who didn't want to have been somebody very famous one lifetime ago. All of our truths need to be questioned or explored or else we cannot move forward.
#56 12-05-2006, 02:47 PM
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Topics such as hypnotherapy, reincarnation and our perceptions of our own spirituality will be controversial topics for many centuries to come.
#57 12-05-2006, 05:46 PM
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Ok - I have to chime in on this one...
Buddhist Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references? And may I suggest that you look more closely into the Buddhist philosophy - (it is not a religion.) and it isn't about past, it's about the present, the moment, the NOW!
I would really appreciate some documentation on that statement.
Being very close friends with people like Dr Georgina Cannon, Dr. Michael Newton, both internationally recognized hypnotherapists, Suzane Northrop, Edward, who all talk to dead people, I have asked about your theories which I have read on these boards. Perhaps you could explain why they disagree with you?
This is not an attack - it's a curiosity. And the reason I am curious is that I believe all that information resides within each of us AND no one has the right to access it without our permission. That's why hypnotherapy allows the person to bring up their past lives. When people profess to "know" about my "lives", I have found nothing but deception in such cases. My inner work has brought forth the answers I need - not the words of someone I don't know.
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#58 12-05-2006, 06:04 PM
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Well, you must ask yourself why these things bother you.
Is it wrong to try to de-mystify reincarnation, especially when it has great healing potential and can accelerate spiritual growth. Other people have written books on reincarnation with facial comparisons. Perhaps it's a new trend. Part of our growing spiritual awareness.
As for not knowing these people down the time-line of history - Incorrect, I knew them all very well.
I am not "trying" to de-mystify reincarnation.
Far from it. For the most part it remains a mystery to me.
I only know what I know for, and from myself from what was revealed to me personally.
So, it can really only be true for myself, and all I may do is write about it, and people may take it or leave it as it stands.
It does appear to me that the de-mystification of reincarnation is what you have been doing with these comparisons you have been making, particularly those of celebrity.
In example, I am interested in what Donald Sutherland might think about what you posted about him here. Did you think to contact Mr. Sutherland about your suppositions?
You did not. Therefore, whatever you post about him, or anyone else, without their knowledge or permission remains tabloid.
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#59 12-05-2006, 06:33 PM
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Ok - I have to chime in on this one...
Buddhist Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references? And may I suggest that you look more closely into the Buddhist philosophy - (it is not a religion.) and it isn't about past, it's about the present, the moment, the NOW!
I would really appreciate some documentation on that statement.
Being very close friends with people like Dr Georgina Cannon, Dr. Michael Newton, both internationally recognized hypnotherapists, Suzane Northrop, Edward, who all talk to dead people, I have asked about your theories which I have read on these boards. Perhaps you could explain why they disagree with you?
This is not an attack - it's a curiosity. And the reason I am curious is that I believe all that information resides within each of us AND no one has the right to access it without our permission. That's why hypnotherapy allows the person to bring up their past lives. When people profess to "know" about my "lives", I have found nothing but deception in such cases. My inner work has brought forth the answers I need - not the words of someone I don't know.
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#60 12-05-2006, 07:08 PM
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...Wouldn't you use your psychic gifts to verify and explore the data from hypnotic states? ...
You obviously don't understand what I've previously said. I am not here to verify anything that my clients state. It is 'their' truth, growth and understanding. It is NOT for me to prove or disprove. I am just a facilitator to help them get to a relaxed state so that they can answer their own questions of life.
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I have seen Buddhist monks do readings from photographs.
I am not aware regarding Monks who read photos, but I don't feel it would be quite the same as what is being referred to regarding photos here.
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#61 12-05-2006, 08:17 PM
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Ok - I have to chime in on this one...
Buddhist Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references? And may I suggest that you look more closely into the Buddhist philosophy - (it is not a religion.) and it isn't about past, it's about the present, the moment, the NOW!
I would really appreciate some documentation on that statement.
Being very close friends with people like Dr Georgina Cannon, Dr. Michael Newton, both internationally recognized hypnotherapists, Suzane Northrop, Edward, who all talk to dead people, I have asked about your theories which I have read on these boards. Perhaps you could explain why they disagree with you?
This is not an attack - it's a curiosity. And the reason I am curious is that I believe all that information resides within each of us AND no one has the right to access it without our permission. That's why hypnotherapy allows the person to bring up their past lives. When people profess to "know" about my "lives", I have found nothing but deception in such cases. My inner work has brought forth the answers I need - not the words of someone I don't know.
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We do not require permission to seek information that will facilitate soul growth. This information can be shared. The disciples speculated on the past lives of Jesus without any rebuke. I believe it is preferable to train people to see past lives for themselves. The only deception possible in such cases is self-deception. Belief in reincarnation is a personal choice. I have been told that increasing our awareness of the possibility of reincarnation can have only positive effects. At this early stage we are struggling to find proof. There have been a number of books over the years speculating on the past lives of famous people. One book speculated that Elizabeth Taylor was the reincarnation of Cleopatra and also that Bruce Willis had some connection to the man that shot President Lincoln.
I'm sorry I cannot remember the name of the book. Any speculation whether true or false will increase our desire to know more about the possibility of past lives. Please delete my past life readings here if they cause anyone offense. They can be checked by others to see if they have validity.
How did BlueJay11 succeed in getting David Beckham's possible past life connection to Tsar Nicholas? It explains why Posh Spice is so posh, too.
I will try to find information on that sect that channels Jules Verne if I can.
Are there people in the States that can teach people to read the Akashic Records for themselves?
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#62 12-05-2006, 08:34 PM
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Shirley has written that she was one of Toulouse' Lautrec's models. I remember that movie "The Yellow Rolls Royce" with George C Scott.
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http://www.lautrec.info/Aristide-Bruant.html
http://www.lechatnoir.free.fr/chat_noir/page_470.htm
Apparently Aristide Bruant died and a couple of years later reincarnated as George C. Scott. George C. Scott is particularly remembered for portraying General Patton.
Is this fraudulent or just too alarming to handle?
I do not want to alarm anybody. Forgive me if that is the case.
#63 12-05-2006, 08:49 PM
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I feel quite wretched about upsetting people. It's probably best that I discontinue posting. I should be healing, rather than stirring up controversy.
Even Edgar Cayce made mistakes.
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The Akashic Records do exist, whether we believe in their existence or not. Everybody has them in their dresser drawer. Just go there and take a look. A very useful tool to check that the information we get from hypnotherapy is valid and untainted. Information is distorted by congested chakra energy.
I am aware that everyone has access to the Akashic Records inside themselves. I have seen them and successfully brought people to see theirs.
What I was merely pointing out is that somehow you seem to feel your view of the Akashic Records are more validating than others experience of their own past lives. You, as well as others, can get info distorted by chakra energy and all kinds of things for that matter.
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#28 12-05-2006, 03:13 AM
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If we investigate the Akashic Records thoroughly, then compare the information we get from hypnosis we would begin to learn a lot about how the mind distorts and misinterprets information.
We can do both of these things without the necessity of believing in either.
Our belief systems are only barriers to higher truths.
Well, I am not sure who 'we' is, but your statement is contradictory in my reading. In my business, Akashic Records are viewed while in hypnosis.
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#29 12-05-2006, 03:50 AM
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Well, I am not sure who 'we' is, but your statement is contradictory in my reading. In my business, Akashic Records are viewed while in hypnosis.
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Something is being viewed while in hypnosis. It certainly isn't the Akashic records in their entirety where we can see the past lives of everyone with ease. We just get distorted and limited glimpses along with a lot of emotion. We (meaning all of us) cannot view the Akashic Records using crude methods. It's like getting the money from our piggy banks using a crowbar.
Even simple devices like pendulums can help in these matters.
#30 12-05-2006, 03:56 AM
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As a layman who has experienced other conscious and subconscious states, who is not a hypnotist I wish to contribute what "I feel" when I am hypnotized, dreaming, when I meditate, get a reiki attunement, and when I "access" information, be they past lives, akashic records, spirit guides etc....
It is important to me in all of these states to notice the direction of energy flow. In addition to some vibratory state.
I find that the visuals come from a similar place and vibration no matter what practice I am engaged in, only the quality of the image changes depending on whether I am deeply in a state, such as when someone else hypnotizes me, or I am dreaming or in reiki.
As far as validity- I have always had a strong sense of inner truth and what is actually false, whether it be psychic images or actual people, events, photographs. So I do not need any other validation. I know I can just ask myself and trust what my higher self tells me.
My most vivid scenes of past lives have come from reiki and hypnosis.
2/3rd's of the world's population believes in reincarnation.
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#31 12-05-2006, 04:06 AM
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Something is being viewed while in hypnosis. It certainly isn't the Akashic records in their entirety where we can see the past lives of everyone with ease. We just get distorted and limited glimpses along with a lot of emotion. We (meaning all of us) cannot view the Akashic Records using crude methods. It's like getting the money from our piggy banks using a crowbar.
Even simple devices like pendulums can help in these matters.
By what authority do you have to tell someone that what they are seeing is not real and 'your' Akashic Records are more validating than that of someone else.
AND BTW.... Pendulum is one of the first thing a hypnotherapist learns in school and/or training. (and I don't mean look at the watch twirl) IT is an easy way to by-pass the critical factor to get to the subconscious mind. Pendulum work is not magic AND it's no different than hypnosis other than you questions are yes/no etc. Both allow the critical factor to become permeable allowing access to sub/subconscious.
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#32 12-05-2006, 04:09 AM
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As far as validity- I have always had a strong sense of inner truth and what is actually false, whether it be psychic images or actual people, events, photographs. So I do not need any other validation. I know I can just ask myself and trust what my higher self tells me.
My most vivid scenes of past lives have come from reiki and hypnosis.
2/3rd's of the world's population believes in reincarnation.
Our higher selves will provide us with only the information we can handle. It must be presented to us in an acceptable form or else we would reject it and no learning would take place. Over a period of time and development the information we get will change. It's very good to rely on and be guided by our higher selves.
Even our higher selves are a filtering system.
If we are Reiki healers we get extra energy and angelic support and there is less filtering.
#33 12-05-2006, 04:11 AM
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Something is being viewed while in hypnosis. It certainly isn't the Akashic records in their entirety where we can see the past lives of everyone with ease. We just get distorted and limited glimpses along with a lot of emotion. We (meaning all of us) cannot view the Akashic Records using crude methods. It's like getting the money from our piggy banks using a crowbar.
Even simple devices like pendulums can help in these matters.
How do you know that when you are having an experience and viewing the Akashic records as actual records you aren't experiencing distortion? Aren't you taking any beliefs you hold with you even if asking about someone else and even when you don't feel emotionally attached to the answer? A lot of people (I'm not saying you) have such insistence to there being a heirarchy and set ways of thinking about their own evolution and status and can that not distort what you see or receive even if you are reaching a very high level of awareness.
And I'm curious as to why you trust the pendulum. I have a friend who has amazing experiences using hers but I never use one myself because I don't trust myself not to influence the movement subconsciously. (oh and someone once told her that she could only use a gemstone. Such a fixed belief. She uses anything she wants and it's always interesting)
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#34 12-05-2006, 04:15 AM
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(oh and someone once told her that she could only use a gemstone. Such a fixed belief. She uses anything she wants and it's always interesting)
Anything on a string can be used as a pendulum. It's an ideomotor response. It's not what the pendulum is made of that is doing the work !!
*grin*
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#35 12-05-2006, 04:17 AM
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Our higher selves will provide us with only the information we can handle. It must be presented to us in an acceptable form or else we would reject it and no learning would take place. Over a period of time and development the information we get will change. It's very good to rely on and be guided by our higher selves.
Even our higher selves are a filtering system.
I understand this completely
I believe in reincarnation but then I think well aren't we all living every lifetime in reality.
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#36 12-05-2006, 04:18 AM
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Anything on a string can be used as a pendulum. It's an ideomotor response. It's not what the pendulum is made of that is doing the work !!
*grin*
exactly!
oh we sure had some fun when she was at work with her paperclip pendulum
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#37 12-05-2006, 04:19 AM
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By what authority do you have to tell someone that what they are seeing is not real and 'your' Akashic Records are more validating than that of someone else.
I am under certain obligations to pass on information. It's only information. It's up to you to decide whether it's helpful or not.
#38 12-05-2006, 04:26 AM
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I am under certain obligations to pass on information. It's only information. It's up to you to decide whether it's helpful or not.
I don't pass on past life info, I facilitate it. My clients are who comes to their own info. Even during a Reiki session (yes, I am a Reiki Master also) if I get visions, etc., I describe it and allow my clients to decipher. It is not for me to decide. I never 'tell' them anything.
Have a good night.
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#39 12-05-2006, 04:31 AM
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How do you know that when you are having an experience and viewing the Akashic records as actual records you aren't experiencing distortion?
Exactly!
If we are healers and have more chakra energy and angelic guidance, we feel more confident in our abilities. We get a lot of experience. Just go and learn Reiki.
Healing is the important thing. Visions, voices, past lives are just tools of the trade. They are there just to facilitate healing.
#40 12-05-2006, 04:37 AM
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I don't pass on past life info, I facilitate it. My clients are who comes to their own info. Even during a Reiki session (yes, I am a Reiki Master also) if I get visions, etc., I describe it and allow my clients to decipher. It is not for me to decide. I never 'tell' them anything.
Have a good night.
I agree. I prefer to get my clients to see past lives and angels for themselves. After that many want to become healers.
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#41 12-05-2006, 04:45 AM
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A lot of people (I'm not saying you) have such insistence to there being a heirarchy and set ways of thinking about their own evolution and status.
That's very unfortunate. Perhaps this kind of thinking is a temporary stage in some people's development. If people who think like this are healing people, they will get to understand the truth eventually.
#42 12-05-2006, 04:56 AM
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I am aware that everyone has access to the Akashic Records inside themselves. I have seen them and successfully brought people to see theirs.
What I was merely pointing out is that somehow you seem to feel your view of the Akashic Records are more validating than others experience of their own past lives. You, as well as others, can get info distorted by chakra energy and all kinds of things for that matter.
Yes this distortion will occur. I have experienced this myself and believe I know how to correct it. Perhaps that's ego talking. I just teach the skills and let others decide upon the validity of their experiences. It's just good that people are beginning to acknowledge that there can be distortion regarding all kinds of channeled information and psychic data.
#43 12-05-2006, 05:12 AM
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I understand this completely
I believe in reincarnation but then I think well aren't we all living every lifetime in reality.
If we change the last word to illusion, then that would probably be more appropriate.
#44 12-05-2006, 07:39 AM brianstalin
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As far as validity- I have always had a strong sense of inner truth and what is actually false, whether it be psychic images or actual people, events, photographs. So I do not need any other validation.
If we do not seek validation, then we lose the opportunity to explore and to grow. In order to validate what we and others see and experience, we must engage in processes that allow us to become more "enlightened".
UFOs and crop circles are part of a higher design prompting us on inner searches to find the answers. If we are too hasty when reaching conclusions about past lives, inner visions etc. we might cut off our desire to explore and grow further.
I believe we are being prompted at this important time by higher intelligences to seek validation.
That’s a 2012 thing.
If we reach hasty conclusions and slide them neatly into our current belief systems what do we do next?
#45 12-05-2006, 09:32 AM
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Do you believe what you believe?
Do you believe what you believe?
Is it Fact? Truth? or Faith?
Do you ever really stop yourself, and look at what it is you are doing here?
Posting pictures of people you don't even know, and then link them up with others you never knew down the time-line of humanity.....
because if you really did know them, you would respectfully have nothing to say about them.
I reiterate, brianstalin, ultimately what you have here is a tabloid view of incarnation, and re-incarnation down the time-line of humanity.
It's your call Buh-Buh. I am just making an observation here.
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#46 12-05-2006, 12:42 PM
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Do you believe what you believe?
Is it Fact? Truth? or Faith?
Our minds do not need to be restricted by belief or non-belief. Our psychic perceptions need total freedom from outside influences in order to function at their full potential.
#47 12-05-2006, 12:50 PM
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I reiterate, brianstalin, ultimately what you have here is a tabloid view of incarnation, and re-incarnation down the time-line of humanity.
Michael !!
You're great!!! Well put.
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#48 12-05-2006, 12:51 PM
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Do you ever really stop yourself, and look at what it is you are doing here?
Posting pictures of people you don't even know, and then link them up with others you never knew down the time-line of humanity.....
because if you really did know them, you would respectfully have nothing to say about them.
I reiterate, brianstalin, ultimately what you have here is a tabloid view of incarnation, and re-incarnation down the time-line of humanity.
It's your call Buh-Buh. I am just making an observation here.
Well, you must ask yourself why these things bother you.
Is it wrong to try to de-mystify reincarnation, especially when it has great healing potential and can accelerate spiritual growth. Other people have written books on reincarnation with facial comparisons. Perhaps it's a new trend. Part of our growing spiritual awareness.
As for not knowing these people down the time-line of history - Incorrect, I knew them all very well.
#49 12-05-2006, 01:02 PM
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Perhaps that's ego talking. I just teach the skills and let others decide upon the validity of their experiences.
Yes this is your ego talking. I'm glad you at least acknowledge that you have a large ego. Identifying the problem is a good beginning. By telling people what they are in a previous life and not being open to any others views is ego. Maybe your large ego is something that you have to learn to work on in this lifetime as a lesson. I suggestion a regression through hypnosis to find out what lessons you need to learn in hopes of progressing this lifetime.
Michael, do not stress yourself out. BS's contraindications show that he doesn't really have educated facts regarding reincarnation, hypnosis and the like. His opinions are based on wikipedia and other on line articles in which you can find anything in written form. Reiki is a great tool where the practitioner acts as an instrument, not a healer. People sometime forget this when the large ego gets in the way.
Have a great day.
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#50 12-05-2006, 01:25 PM
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Now you must ask yourself why you feel the need to attack me on a personal level. They do say people get jealous of other people's abilities. Surely you are not such a one? If I post a photo here will you be able to tell me all about that person's past lives? Can you tell me about that person's physical, emotional and mental problems? Would you accept that challenge?
These are just a few of the many essential tools used in healing.
Many of my students have far greater healing and psychic skills than I do.
I have already explained healing energy comes from the higher dimensions and healers are just channels. I'm open to other people's viewpoints and I am not afraid to contradict them and provide data to support another viewpoint.
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#51 12-05-2006, 01:49 PM
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Hemingway
My guides suggested I post a picture of Hemingway. He has given permission for anyone to look at the Akashic Records on his behalf. He wants to know just what went wrong or right during this lifetime on the Earth plane. He says he needs help to understand it.
This is open to anyone. Healer or non-healer.
Hemingway says these things are important for our Ascension.
There should be no ethical problems with this. If your own guides are unco-operative, perhaps they would post a picture of another candidate or explain their refusal to participate. Many souls on the other side have questions, too.
http://www.millionmagazines.com/hemingway.html
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#52 12-05-2006, 01:56 PM
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Now you must ask yourself why you feel the need to attack me on a personal level. They do say people get jealous of other people's abilities.
I apologize if you feel that was a personal attack. It was your post that initiated the talk about egos. Jealous of abilities? Umm, no. I feel that Reiki is NOT an ability. It is a gift that each and everyone carries around and has the ability as an instrument. And as far as the other stuff that you do with pictures, as I stated before, my work in regression is not for entertainment as yours is. Therefore, jealousy is surely nothing
that I hold. I'm sure your photo stuff has its place, just like stage hypnosis, but it's not something that I would be jealous of. I like parlor games as much as the next person. Again, my practice is for spiritual, and most often physical gain.
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Surely you are not such a one? If I post a photo here will you be able to tell me all about that person's past lives? Can you tell me about that person's physical, emotional and mental problems? Would you accept that challenge?
These are just a few of the many essential tools used in healing.
Many of my students have far greater healing and psychic skills than I do.
I have already explained healing energy comes from the higher dimensions and healers are just channels. I'm open to other people's viewpoints and I am not afraid to contradict them and provide data to support another viewpoint.
Surely, I am not one.. haha. (hmmm, this could be construed as a personal attack.) Up for challenge? ahaha... I need not prove to you anything of my work. I never stated I was 'a' psychic. Although everyone has psychic abilities. I am a hypnotherapist who has a clinical practice where one of the types of hypnosis I use is past life regression for the higher good for my clients.
As I stated before, we don't agree. I defend these boards as I have been here for 6 years and when I see attacks on people, especially new members, it concerns me which is why I stepped in on a subject that I saw errors in.
I just merely ask that you be open to others when they come to these boards and to be open that others truths are just that. Their truths. No need for challenges, tallying up proof or lining up past clients. Just be nice in the playground.
Have a great day. Enough said. Sending you much light for growth and understanding.
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#53 12-05-2006, 01:59 PM
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My guides suggested I post a picture of Hemingway. He has given permission for anyone to look at the Akashic Records on his behalf. He wants to know just what went wrong or right during this lifetime on the Earth plane. He says he needs help to understand it.
This is open to anyone. Healer or non-healer.
Hemingway says these things are important for our Ascension.
There should be no ethical problems with this. If your own guides are unco-operative, perhaps they would post a picture of another candidate or explain their refusal to participate. Many souls on the other side have questions, too.
http://www.millionmagazines.com/hemingway.html
Egaddds.... As I stated before. I don't play with photos!! hahah
Ethical problems??? - where did that one come from.
Uncooperative guides ??? - hahah. This makes me giggle.. no comment.
If souls on the other side have questions for me, ask them to use another channel !! They'll know who I mean
Enjoy. Off to my office and clients.
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#54 12-05-2006, 02:32 PM
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I never stated I was 'a' psychic. Although everyone has psychic abilities. I am a hypnotherapist who has a clinical practice where one of the types of hypnosis I use is past life regression for the higher good for my clients.
You did say that you were a Reiki Master. Wouldn't you use your psychic gifts to verify and explore the data from hypnotic states? Do you create Reiki channels and introduce them to their inner guidance etc?
I have seen Buddhist monks do readings from photographs. There's even a
Vietnamese temple that channels Jules Verne and others. I'm not sure if they should be doing that, but it isn't idle entertainment. It has been used in teaching. It is very instructive.
#55 12-05-2006, 02:42 PM
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I defend these boards as I have been here for 6 years and when I see attacks on people, especially new members, it concerns me which is why I stepped in on a subject that I saw errors in.
I just merely ask that you be open to others when they come to these boards and to be open that others truths are just that. Their truths. No need for challenges, tallying up proof or lining up past clients. Just be nice in the playground.
I recall offering help to someone who told me they knew someone who didn't want to have been somebody very famous one lifetime ago. All of our truths need to be questioned or explored or else we cannot move forward.
#56 12-05-2006, 02:47 PM
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Critical Analysis
Topics such as hypnotherapy, reincarnation and our perceptions of our own spirituality will be controversial topics for many centuries to come.
#57 12-05-2006, 05:46 PM
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Ok - I have to chime in on this one...
Buddhist Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references? And may I suggest that you look more closely into the Buddhist philosophy - (it is not a religion.) and it isn't about past, it's about the present, the moment, the NOW!
I would really appreciate some documentation on that statement.
Being very close friends with people like Dr Georgina Cannon, Dr. Michael Newton, both internationally recognized hypnotherapists, Suzane Northrop, Edward, who all talk to dead people, I have asked about your theories which I have read on these boards. Perhaps you could explain why they disagree with you?
This is not an attack - it's a curiosity. And the reason I am curious is that I believe all that information resides within each of us AND no one has the right to access it without our permission. That's why hypnotherapy allows the person to bring up their past lives. When people profess to "know" about my "lives", I have found nothing but deception in such cases. My inner work has brought forth the answers I need - not the words of someone I don't know.
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#58 12-05-2006, 06:04 PM
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Well, you must ask yourself why these things bother you.
Is it wrong to try to de-mystify reincarnation, especially when it has great healing potential and can accelerate spiritual growth. Other people have written books on reincarnation with facial comparisons. Perhaps it's a new trend. Part of our growing spiritual awareness.
As for not knowing these people down the time-line of history - Incorrect, I knew them all very well.
I am not "trying" to de-mystify reincarnation.
Far from it. For the most part it remains a mystery to me.
I only know what I know for, and from myself from what was revealed to me personally.
So, it can really only be true for myself, and all I may do is write about it, and people may take it or leave it as it stands.
It does appear to me that the de-mystification of reincarnation is what you have been doing with these comparisons you have been making, particularly those of celebrity.
In example, I am interested in what Donald Sutherland might think about what you posted about him here. Did you think to contact Mr. Sutherland about your suppositions?
You did not. Therefore, whatever you post about him, or anyone else, without their knowledge or permission remains tabloid.
Love, Michael, The Valkyrie
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#59 12-05-2006, 06:33 PM
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Ok - I have to chime in on this one...
Buddhist Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references? And may I suggest that you look more closely into the Buddhist philosophy - (it is not a religion.) and it isn't about past, it's about the present, the moment, the NOW!
I would really appreciate some documentation on that statement.
Being very close friends with people like Dr Georgina Cannon, Dr. Michael Newton, both internationally recognized hypnotherapists, Suzane Northrop, Edward, who all talk to dead people, I have asked about your theories which I have read on these boards. Perhaps you could explain why they disagree with you?
This is not an attack - it's a curiosity. And the reason I am curious is that I believe all that information resides within each of us AND no one has the right to access it without our permission. That's why hypnotherapy allows the person to bring up their past lives. When people profess to "know" about my "lives", I have found nothing but deception in such cases. My inner work has brought forth the answers I need - not the words of someone I don't know.
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#60 12-05-2006, 07:08 PM
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...Wouldn't you use your psychic gifts to verify and explore the data from hypnotic states? ...
You obviously don't understand what I've previously said. I am not here to verify anything that my clients state. It is 'their' truth, growth and understanding. It is NOT for me to prove or disprove. I am just a facilitator to help them get to a relaxed state so that they can answer their own questions of life.
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I have seen Buddhist monks do readings from photographs.
I am not aware regarding Monks who read photos, but I don't feel it would be quite the same as what is being referred to regarding photos here.
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#61 12-05-2006, 08:17 PM
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Ok - I have to chime in on this one...
Buddhist Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references? And may I suggest that you look more closely into the Buddhist philosophy - (it is not a religion.) and it isn't about past, it's about the present, the moment, the NOW!
I would really appreciate some documentation on that statement.
Being very close friends with people like Dr Georgina Cannon, Dr. Michael Newton, both internationally recognized hypnotherapists, Suzane Northrop, Edward, who all talk to dead people, I have asked about your theories which I have read on these boards. Perhaps you could explain why they disagree with you?
This is not an attack - it's a curiosity. And the reason I am curious is that I believe all that information resides within each of us AND no one has the right to access it without our permission. That's why hypnotherapy allows the person to bring up their past lives. When people profess to "know" about my "lives", I have found nothing but deception in such cases. My inner work has brought forth the answers I need - not the words of someone I don't know.
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We do not require permission to seek information that will facilitate soul growth. This information can be shared. The disciples speculated on the past lives of Jesus without any rebuke. I believe it is preferable to train people to see past lives for themselves. The only deception possible in such cases is self-deception. Belief in reincarnation is a personal choice. I have been told that increasing our awareness of the possibility of reincarnation can have only positive effects. At this early stage we are struggling to find proof. There have been a number of books over the years speculating on the past lives of famous people. One book speculated that Elizabeth Taylor was the reincarnation of Cleopatra and also that Bruce Willis had some connection to the man that shot President Lincoln.
I'm sorry I cannot remember the name of the book. Any speculation whether true or false will increase our desire to know more about the possibility of past lives. Please delete my past life readings here if they cause anyone offense. They can be checked by others to see if they have validity.
How did BlueJay11 succeed in getting David Beckham's possible past life connection to Tsar Nicholas? It explains why Posh Spice is so posh, too.
I will try to find information on that sect that channels Jules Verne if I can.
Are there people in the States that can teach people to read the Akashic Records for themselves?
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#62 12-05-2006, 08:34 PM
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Toulouse Lautrec
Shirley has written that she was one of Toulouse' Lautrec's models. I remember that movie "The Yellow Rolls Royce" with George C Scott.
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http://www.lautrec.info/Aristide-Bruant.html
http://www.lechatnoir.free.fr/chat_noir/page_470.htm
Apparently Aristide Bruant died and a couple of years later reincarnated as George C. Scott. George C. Scott is particularly remembered for portraying General Patton.
Is this fraudulent or just too alarming to handle?
I do not want to alarm anybody. Forgive me if that is the case.
#63 12-05-2006, 08:49 PM
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I feel quite wretched about upsetting people. It's probably best that I discontinue posting. I should be healing, rather than stirring up controversy.
Even Edgar Cayce made mistakes.
#64 12-05-2006, 09:31 PM
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There is a problem here. I have only asked you to define your statements, with documentation. I really don't think that is much to ask, so why are you leaving?
I'm not asking you to document reincarnation, this is a personal issue for
everyone, but I am asking you to document channeling monks. I am also speaking from my experience. I have been told some very wild things by people considered 'wise' in such matters, and none of them rang any bell for me. If you feel I am being self deceptive, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But it is my life and lives and my responsibility to learn of and from them.
For clarification, Shirley did not ever say she was that model - she said she was told that she was that person. Shirley also relies on her inner work for that discovery... not someone else's words.
Now let's take this discussion in a different direction - can you not see the harm being played out when someone is told "You were so and so..." ?
What if they weren't that person yet they adopt that personality because they were told they were that person? This is a very fine line and people can sometimes be easily swayed. What if someone were told they were Hitler and took on the karmic guilt of that energy? How does this help broaden the scope of reincarnation? Isn't a type of coersion? Doesn't each person need to make that decision based on their personal experiences and information?
Please don't run away from this. I think it is an important discussion to have.
As for BlueJay, I cannot say, what happened there. I have not addressed it with her, so I have no knowledge base to speak from.
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#65 12-05-2006, 09:55 PM
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For clarification, Shirley did not ever say she was that model - she said she was told that she was that person. Shirley also relies on her inner work for that discovery... not someone else's words.
Now let's take this discussion in a different direction - can you not see the harm being played out when someone is told "You were so and so..." ?
What if they weren't that person yet they adopt that personality because they were told they were that person? This is a very fine line and people can sometimes be easily swayed.
Well, I never told Shirley about the Toulouse Lautrec lifetime. Does Shirley feel harmed by this? It seems a lot of people are beginning to tell people about their past lives. Hypnotherapists, trance channelers etc.
I don't do this. I teach people to go to the Akashic Records for themselves, so they can make up their own minds. They must see their own past lives for themselves. When people ask me directly what I think their past lives are, I will tell them my impressions and urge them to seek validation elsewhere or I teach them myself certain techniques that will help them verify the authenticity of the readings.
As for the past life speculation of certain famous people, that has been done by many other people before. Even by Michael the Valkyrie, who insists Shirley is that Egyptian queen.
It is only speculation about a yet unproven process.
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#66 12-05-2006, 10:04 PM
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I tried to arrange a session for Hans with Kevin Ryerson, as we were all scheduled to be in Las Vegas, in January 2004, over the same weekend. The logistics for a session didn’t work out, though we all managed to have dinner together on a Saturday night. I sat Hans and Kevin together, so that they could talk. I overhead Hans pose the following inquiry to Kevin: “Why won’t Ahtun Re give Walter a past lifetime for me?” Kevin replied, “It usually means that Spirit wants to tell you something important directly.”
The evening and weekend ended uneventfully. A week or two later, I was pondering the situation. “Why won’t Ahtun Re give me a past lifetime for Hans?” I asked myself. It always struck me as unusual that Hans used a three word name, Hans Christian King. I knew that when people reincarnate, they often choose to use versions of their names that have the same cadence from previous lifetimes. A good example featured in Revolutionaries is the case of Barbara Marx Hubbard, who in the Revolutionary era is identified as Mercy Otis Warren. Not only did these women choose to use three word names in two lifetimes, but they also share the traits of being intellectual writers in both incarnations. Though I wasn’t consciously thinking of the correlation of names at the time, I pondered the case of Hans Christian King and who he might have been in a past lifetime. I silently repeated the name “Hans Christian King” in my mind and suddenly, the name “Nostradame” popped into my awareness. I realized that Nostradame, the real name of Nostradamus, had the same cadence as Hans Christian King.
I quickly checked the Internet for a portrait of Nostradamus and found that there was only one historically accurate portrait of the prophet, which was done by his son, Cesar Nostradame, and that Hans’s face matched exactly with the face of Nostradamus. In a subsequent session with Kevin Ryerson, Ahtun Re confirmed that Hans Christian King is the reincarnation of Nostradamus.
When I received this confirmation, I telephoned Aaron Hunt, Hans’s Executive Personal Assistant, to tell him of the news. Aaron was pleasantly shocked. I asked Aaron to tell Hans of the match. When Aaron telephoned Hans to inform him of his past life identity, guess what program Hans was watching on television? Hans was watching a program on Nostradamus.
Hans has made a living by giving psychic readings for over 40 years.
He has been named one of the top five psychics in America by the Miami Herald, and Hans has been endorsed by Yale trained psychiatrist Brian Weiss, MD, author of Many Lives, Many Masters.
In performing psychic readings, Hans works with four spirit guides. After he was informed of his past life match with Nostradamus, Hans asked his spirit guides if this was true, that he was Nostradamus.
Hans’s guides told him that it was true. Later, when I asked Hans if I could disclose his past life identity as Nostradamus publicly, Hans gave me permission to do so. When I reflected, “People could ridicule you for this,” Hans simply replied, “Truth is Truth.” I
told Hans that his stance was courageous.
Have you spoken to Kevin Ryerson about the harm he is doing? I personally don't think it is harmful, perhaps a little irresponsible.
#67 12-05-2006, 10:14 PM
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Reiki Masters are well aware of responsibility.
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#68 12-05-2006, 11:35 PM
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Hi Brit,
I'm new here. My name is Adrian Finkelstein, M.D. Thank you for bringing more clarity here. Shirley may remember me from our encounters several years past. I'm a board certified psychiatrist, former university professor of psychiatry at three universities, practicing and teaching hypnotherapy and past-life regression therapy for over three decades on thousands of people and the author of some books on reincarnation, one quoted by my colleague Dr. Brian Weiss in his book: "Through Time Into Healing." My latest book I wished to send to Shirley as a gift, is about the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe: "Marilyn Monroe Returns: The Healing of a Soul" and I wrote in a previous post that I would appreciate having an address where I can send her the book. Sherrie Lea Laird, the main character of the book, a top-of-the-charts pop singer in Canada, recently joined this Encounter group too. Sherrie and I would love Shirley to read our book. More info about it can be found at: www.pastlives.com and www.marilyn-monroe.ca. Please, say hallo to Shirley!
Love and Light,
Adrian
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#69 12-06-2006, 06:56 AM
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Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references?
We must remember that channeling is part of human experience and Buddhist monks are also human beings.
A Japanese Tendai Buddhist named Mikao Usui claimed to have discovered Reiki after long meditation, fasting, and prayer. We could consider him a channel for healing Reiki energy. Is this channeling?
I have stated before that when we channel Reiki energy, we channel healing energy and channels of information from our higher guidance.
Usui wrote that by mystical revelation he had gained the knowledge and spiritual power to apply and attune others to what he called Reiki. Mikao Usui said that he had the ability to enable people to enhance their access to the energy through certain initiations. Usui taught that his attunements to Reiki enhanced and refined a person's pre-existing ability to connect with Reiki. Through such initiations, students are said to become clearer channels for Reiki, and thereby improve the quality of treatments that student (or practitioner) provides.
Mikao Usui's Reiki method spread widely. Correspondence courses over the Internet even offer distance training. To achieve a complete education in the "Usui method of Reiki Healing," three courses are necessary: the 1st degree course, the 2nd degree course, and the master course. The specific content of each of these courses varies widely from one teacher to another, depending on personal philosophies. A typical set of courses is something like the following:
First Degree Reiki courses are claimed to teach the basic theories of how to work with Reiki energy. The channel through which Reiki energy passes to the practitioner is said to be widened through an initiation by the teacher, permitting the Reiki energy be strong enough to effect healing.
Students learn hand placement positions on the recipient's body that are thought to be most conducive to the healing process.
In the Second Degree Reiki course, a symbol for mental healing is taught, purportedly enabling students to treat even deeply ingrained problems like fears, depression, addictions, and the like. Students are instructed on how to direct Reiki energy to a certain point in time, to a specific person or place, or a specific issue. The issue can be something like an individual's particular health problem, or it can be a more abstract or general issue such as world peace. Practitioners say that this is possible using three symbols taught at the second initiation. The claim is that this skill allows the Reiki channel to be opened even wider.
As part of the master course, usually the Third Degree, students become a Reiki "master" through the third initiation; they learn how to initiate students and have the option of teaching Reiki courses themselves. The student learns a further "master" level symbol in this course as well as the method of attuning others. In some cases the third level is broken into smaller stages of attunements from the teacher; the attunements for the first, second, and third level may also be administered in stages. A teacher has completed practical training when told that he or she has the ability to attune others to all degrees and has been given the final fourth Reiki Master symbol that is used in attunements.
Originally I thought channeling involved allowing a higher spirit guide to connect with you and then take over your body to a certain degree. Then the guide would begin to speak through you and give very useful information, some of which may not have been known to many. In the past, many famous channels like Jane Roberts (Seth), Jach Pursell (Lazaris), etc. would channel this way. The channeler might have had an idea of what was being said but they usually had to read the transcripts after, explaining that they seemed to leave their body (in astral form) and experience some spiritual growth in a different realm while the guide was channeling through their body.
Some channels would produce automatic writing, allowing their Guide to come in and then take over their handwriting or even their typing on the computer. While the more famous channels always seemed to work with beings of Love and Light, most beginners still were concerned with connecting with beings that were not so evolved.
The current methods of teaching channeling (such as that by Roman and Packer) involve techniques where with the energetic support of the teachers (and their guides) you only reach the high beings of Love and Light. Also you are no longer unaware of your channeling as you remain conscious of what is being said - hence you are a conscious channeler. This means that you do not leave your body when the Guide comes in but you remain conscious and aware of everything that is occurring and being said. You simply develop a trust with the Being and allow it to speak or write through you. I found conscious channeling to be something like eavesdropping on a conversation. I may or may not be paying complete attention to the information I am channeling.
Channeling can also take other forms such as in your art, music, inspiration, daily guidance and much more. While usually the Spirit that is channeled is thought of having a personality to its consciousness, the personality can sometimes be very silent - almost dormant, as if existing in the background.
It is this type of channeling that I feel Reiki can be thought of as. I originally found that the Reiki energy would flow into and through me, simply through the act of my allowing it to do so. However, I did not detect a forward or up-front personality, a being that will interact would my thoughts. But it does seem to have a consciousness that allows it to follow my own intention of flow, and once it integrates with the target, it seems to know where best to concentrate. Thus the Reiki "spirit" or source seems to interact directly with my own higher consciousness (Higher Self) and that of the person I share it with, knowing how and where it is best suited for the best results in the moment.
This may not be the original way Reiki was originally experienced in Usui Sensei's day, but it seems a good analogy for today. I feel that as the new Reiki practitioner integrates Reiki more and more, eventually she or he becomes or takes on this vibration. Thus it is simply an add-on to their own energy field.
Here are some examples of how my higher guides began to work with me in my teaching and healing work.
Originally when I gave a Reiki session I would ask my guides and those of the recipient to help me be aware of the areas of need in the person's body. Eventually I found that my hands were being guided to certain locations and were even moving in ways I had not thought of. It was as though the guides were simply taking over the process, with my permission, and penetrating the complete aura of the person as I worked.
Not long after this, my guides suggested I channel through them (using them as sort of gate keepers) the everyday guides of the healing recipient. The gatekeeper concept simply ensures that no lower non-harmonious being or energies can pass through to me. My guides indicated that inviting them in would allow the recipient's guides to be more aware at the physical level the challenges existing within the person's body - something that apparently is not so evident from a guide's higher point of existence.
Having done this, I was asked to invite the person's guides to flow, through my higher guide, any additional healing energies that they felt might be useful. This is always quite interesting to me as the new energies they flow have a different feel to them than what I am used to.
The combination of these methods has resulted in healing sessions that typically last between 10 and 15 minutes. However, since I have promised the healing recipient at least a full hour's work, I usually then proceed to work around the body using more standard hand positions. I find this may help the subconscious of the person to recognize that I have indeed attended to a certain area, and there is the possibility that it will then release further any blocks related to that part of the body or aura. All in all, it makes for very satisfying sessions.
Another way the higher guides assist is to share information with me about the healing recipient. For example, I was taking part in a Reiki information booth at a local wellness show. We had 2 tables for people to receive sample Reiki sessions and a couple of chairs for friends to sit and wait. Often we might offer a short session to the person in the chair.
I noticed a teenage girl waiting for her mother so I asked her if she would like to receive the same energies her mother was getting. She said yes so I simply rested my hands on her shoulders and let Reiki flow from there.
Within a couple minutes I was getting some information from my guides about her so I shared this and said to her "You see things that others do not see." She looked up at me, surprised and said "Not things. People." So I told her that the first thing I had to share was that what she was seeing was real. She looked at me with great relief and gratitude and said "Thank you!" I then explained to her how most people can see spirit when they are very young, but over time they allow the ability to slip away, usually due to the fact there is no ongoing support for them to retain this. This seemed to really help her understand her abilities.
Throughout Asia Buddhist monks will give consultations on all topics. They will use channeling to connect with their higher selves. Information and advice comes directly from the monk's higher consciousness.
Some monks will use pendulums and read palms.
I have personally been present at exorcisms presided over by Buddhist monks.
Contacting dead people? Sure, why not? It's no big deal.
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There is a problem here. I have only asked you to define your statements, with documentation. I really don't think that is much to ask, so why are you leaving?
I'm not asking you to document reincarnation, this is a personal issue for
everyone, but I am asking you to document channeling monks. I am also speaking from my experience. I have been told some very wild things by people considered 'wise' in such matters, and none of them rang any bell for me. If you feel I am being self deceptive, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But it is my life and lives and my responsibility to learn of and from them.
For clarification, Shirley did not ever say she was that model - she said she was told that she was that person. Shirley also relies on her inner work for that discovery... not someone else's words.
Now let's take this discussion in a different direction - can you not see the harm being played out when someone is told "You were so and so..." ?
What if they weren't that person yet they adopt that personality because they were told they were that person? This is a very fine line and people can sometimes be easily swayed. What if someone were told they were Hitler and took on the karmic guilt of that energy? How does this help broaden the scope of reincarnation? Isn't a type of coersion? Doesn't each person need to make that decision based on their personal experiences and information?
Please don't run away from this. I think it is an important discussion to have.
As for BlueJay, I cannot say, what happened there. I have not addressed it with her, so I have no knowledge base to speak from.
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#65 12-05-2006, 09:55 PM
brianstalin
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Beneficial
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For clarification, Shirley did not ever say she was that model - she said she was told that she was that person. Shirley also relies on her inner work for that discovery... not someone else's words.
Now let's take this discussion in a different direction - can you not see the harm being played out when someone is told "You were so and so..." ?
What if they weren't that person yet they adopt that personality because they were told they were that person? This is a very fine line and people can sometimes be easily swayed.
Well, I never told Shirley about the Toulouse Lautrec lifetime. Does Shirley feel harmed by this? It seems a lot of people are beginning to tell people about their past lives. Hypnotherapists, trance channelers etc.
I don't do this. I teach people to go to the Akashic Records for themselves, so they can make up their own minds. They must see their own past lives for themselves. When people ask me directly what I think their past lives are, I will tell them my impressions and urge them to seek validation elsewhere or I teach them myself certain techniques that will help them verify the authenticity of the readings.
As for the past life speculation of certain famous people, that has been done by many other people before. Even by Michael the Valkyrie, who insists Shirley is that Egyptian queen.
It is only speculation about a yet unproven process.
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#66 12-05-2006, 10:04 PM
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Nostradamus
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I tried to arrange a session for Hans with Kevin Ryerson, as we were all scheduled to be in Las Vegas, in January 2004, over the same weekend. The logistics for a session didn’t work out, though we all managed to have dinner together on a Saturday night. I sat Hans and Kevin together, so that they could talk. I overhead Hans pose the following inquiry to Kevin: “Why won’t Ahtun Re give Walter a past lifetime for me?” Kevin replied, “It usually means that Spirit wants to tell you something important directly.”
The evening and weekend ended uneventfully. A week or two later, I was pondering the situation. “Why won’t Ahtun Re give me a past lifetime for Hans?” I asked myself. It always struck me as unusual that Hans used a three word name, Hans Christian King. I knew that when people reincarnate, they often choose to use versions of their names that have the same cadence from previous lifetimes. A good example featured in Revolutionaries is the case of Barbara Marx Hubbard, who in the Revolutionary era is identified as Mercy Otis Warren. Not only did these women choose to use three word names in two lifetimes, but they also share the traits of being intellectual writers in both incarnations. Though I wasn’t consciously thinking of the correlation of names at the time, I pondered the case of Hans Christian King and who he might have been in a past lifetime. I silently repeated the name “Hans Christian King” in my mind and suddenly, the name “Nostradame” popped into my awareness. I realized that Nostradame, the real name of Nostradamus, had the same cadence as Hans Christian King.
I quickly checked the Internet for a portrait of Nostradamus and found that there was only one historically accurate portrait of the prophet, which was done by his son, Cesar Nostradame, and that Hans’s face matched exactly with the face of Nostradamus. In a subsequent session with Kevin Ryerson, Ahtun Re confirmed that Hans Christian King is the reincarnation of Nostradamus.
When I received this confirmation, I telephoned Aaron Hunt, Hans’s Executive Personal Assistant, to tell him of the news. Aaron was pleasantly shocked. I asked Aaron to tell Hans of the match. When Aaron telephoned Hans to inform him of his past life identity, guess what program Hans was watching on television? Hans was watching a program on Nostradamus.
Hans has made a living by giving psychic readings for over 40 years.
He has been named one of the top five psychics in America by the Miami Herald, and Hans has been endorsed by Yale trained psychiatrist Brian Weiss, MD, author of Many Lives, Many Masters.
In performing psychic readings, Hans works with four spirit guides. After he was informed of his past life match with Nostradamus, Hans asked his spirit guides if this was true, that he was Nostradamus.
Hans’s guides told him that it was true. Later, when I asked Hans if I could disclose his past life identity as Nostradamus publicly, Hans gave me permission to do so. When I reflected, “People could ridicule you for this,” Hans simply replied, “Truth is Truth.” I
told Hans that his stance was courageous.
Have you spoken to Kevin Ryerson about the harm he is doing? I personally don't think it is harmful, perhaps a little irresponsible.
#67 12-05-2006, 10:14 PM
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Journey
Reiki Masters are well aware of responsibility.
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#68 12-05-2006, 11:35 PM
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Hi Brit,
I'm new here. My name is Adrian Finkelstein, M.D. Thank you for bringing more clarity here. Shirley may remember me from our encounters several years past. I'm a board certified psychiatrist, former university professor of psychiatry at three universities, practicing and teaching hypnotherapy and past-life regression therapy for over three decades on thousands of people and the author of some books on reincarnation, one quoted by my colleague Dr. Brian Weiss in his book: "Through Time Into Healing." My latest book I wished to send to Shirley as a gift, is about the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe: "Marilyn Monroe Returns: The Healing of a Soul" and I wrote in a previous post that I would appreciate having an address where I can send her the book. Sherrie Lea Laird, the main character of the book, a top-of-the-charts pop singer in Canada, recently joined this Encounter group too. Sherrie and I would love Shirley to read our book. More info about it can be found at: www.pastlives.com and www.marilyn-monroe.ca. Please, say hallo to Shirley!
Love and Light,
Adrian
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#69 12-06-2006, 06:56 AM
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Monks Channeling?
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Monks channeling? None of the monks I know or have met or known channel dead people. Can you give me some names and references?
We must remember that channeling is part of human experience and Buddhist monks are also human beings.
A Japanese Tendai Buddhist named Mikao Usui claimed to have discovered Reiki after long meditation, fasting, and prayer. We could consider him a channel for healing Reiki energy. Is this channeling?
I have stated before that when we channel Reiki energy, we channel healing energy and channels of information from our higher guidance.
Usui wrote that by mystical revelation he had gained the knowledge and spiritual power to apply and attune others to what he called Reiki. Mikao Usui said that he had the ability to enable people to enhance their access to the energy through certain initiations. Usui taught that his attunements to Reiki enhanced and refined a person's pre-existing ability to connect with Reiki. Through such initiations, students are said to become clearer channels for Reiki, and thereby improve the quality of treatments that student (or practitioner) provides.
Mikao Usui's Reiki method spread widely. Correspondence courses over the Internet even offer distance training. To achieve a complete education in the "Usui method of Reiki Healing," three courses are necessary: the 1st degree course, the 2nd degree course, and the master course. The specific content of each of these courses varies widely from one teacher to another, depending on personal philosophies. A typical set of courses is something like the following:
First Degree Reiki courses are claimed to teach the basic theories of how to work with Reiki energy. The channel through which Reiki energy passes to the practitioner is said to be widened through an initiation by the teacher, permitting the Reiki energy be strong enough to effect healing.
Students learn hand placement positions on the recipient's body that are thought to be most conducive to the healing process.
In the Second Degree Reiki course, a symbol for mental healing is taught, purportedly enabling students to treat even deeply ingrained problems like fears, depression, addictions, and the like. Students are instructed on how to direct Reiki energy to a certain point in time, to a specific person or place, or a specific issue. The issue can be something like an individual's particular health problem, or it can be a more abstract or general issue such as world peace. Practitioners say that this is possible using three symbols taught at the second initiation. The claim is that this skill allows the Reiki channel to be opened even wider.
As part of the master course, usually the Third Degree, students become a Reiki "master" through the third initiation; they learn how to initiate students and have the option of teaching Reiki courses themselves. The student learns a further "master" level symbol in this course as well as the method of attuning others. In some cases the third level is broken into smaller stages of attunements from the teacher; the attunements for the first, second, and third level may also be administered in stages. A teacher has completed practical training when told that he or she has the ability to attune others to all degrees and has been given the final fourth Reiki Master symbol that is used in attunements.
#70 12-06-2006, 06:59 AM
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Conscious Channeling
Originally I thought channeling involved allowing a higher spirit guide to connect with you and then take over your body to a certain degree. Then the guide would begin to speak through you and give very useful information, some of which may not have been known to many. In the past, many famous channels like Jane Roberts (Seth), Jach Pursell (Lazaris), etc. would channel this way. The channeler might have had an idea of what was being said but they usually had to read the transcripts after, explaining that they seemed to leave their body (in astral form) and experience some spiritual growth in a different realm while the guide was channeling through their body.
Some channels would produce automatic writing, allowing their Guide to come in and then take over their handwriting or even their typing on the computer. While the more famous channels always seemed to work with beings of Love and Light, most beginners still were concerned with connecting with beings that were not so evolved.
The current methods of teaching channeling (such as that by Roman and Packer) involve techniques where with the energetic support of the teachers (and their guides) you only reach the high beings of Love and Light. Also you are no longer unaware of your channeling as you remain conscious of what is being said - hence you are a conscious channeler. This means that you do not leave your body when the Guide comes in but you remain conscious and aware of everything that is occurring and being said. You simply develop a trust with the Being and allow it to speak or write through you. I found conscious channeling to be something like eavesdropping on a conversation. I may or may not be paying complete attention to the information I am channeling.
Channeling can also take other forms such as in your art, music, inspiration, daily guidance and much more. While usually the Spirit that is channeled is thought of having a personality to its consciousness, the personality can sometimes be very silent - almost dormant, as if existing in the background.
It is this type of channeling that I feel Reiki can be thought of as. I originally found that the Reiki energy would flow into and through me, simply through the act of my allowing it to do so. However, I did not detect a forward or up-front personality, a being that will interact would my thoughts. But it does seem to have a consciousness that allows it to follow my own intention of flow, and once it integrates with the target, it seems to know where best to concentrate. Thus the Reiki "spirit" or source seems to interact directly with my own higher consciousness (Higher Self) and that of the person I share it with, knowing how and where it is best suited for the best results in the moment.
This may not be the original way Reiki was originally experienced in Usui Sensei's day, but it seems a good analogy for today. I feel that as the new Reiki practitioner integrates Reiki more and more, eventually she or he becomes or takes on this vibration. Thus it is simply an add-on to their own energy field.
Here are some examples of how my higher guides began to work with me in my teaching and healing work.
Originally when I gave a Reiki session I would ask my guides and those of the recipient to help me be aware of the areas of need in the person's body. Eventually I found that my hands were being guided to certain locations and were even moving in ways I had not thought of. It was as though the guides were simply taking over the process, with my permission, and penetrating the complete aura of the person as I worked.
Not long after this, my guides suggested I channel through them (using them as sort of gate keepers) the everyday guides of the healing recipient. The gatekeeper concept simply ensures that no lower non-harmonious being or energies can pass through to me. My guides indicated that inviting them in would allow the recipient's guides to be more aware at the physical level the challenges existing within the person's body - something that apparently is not so evident from a guide's higher point of existence.
Having done this, I was asked to invite the person's guides to flow, through my higher guide, any additional healing energies that they felt might be useful. This is always quite interesting to me as the new energies they flow have a different feel to them than what I am used to.
The combination of these methods has resulted in healing sessions that typically last between 10 and 15 minutes. However, since I have promised the healing recipient at least a full hour's work, I usually then proceed to work around the body using more standard hand positions. I find this may help the subconscious of the person to recognize that I have indeed attended to a certain area, and there is the possibility that it will then release further any blocks related to that part of the body or aura. All in all, it makes for very satisfying sessions.
Another way the higher guides assist is to share information with me about the healing recipient. For example, I was taking part in a Reiki information booth at a local wellness show. We had 2 tables for people to receive sample Reiki sessions and a couple of chairs for friends to sit and wait. Often we might offer a short session to the person in the chair.
I noticed a teenage girl waiting for her mother so I asked her if she would like to receive the same energies her mother was getting. She said yes so I simply rested my hands on her shoulders and let Reiki flow from there.
Within a couple minutes I was getting some information from my guides about her so I shared this and said to her "You see things that others do not see." She looked up at me, surprised and said "Not things. People." So I told her that the first thing I had to share was that what she was seeing was real. She looked at me with great relief and gratitude and said "Thank you!" I then explained to her how most people can see spirit when they are very young, but over time they allow the ability to slip away, usually due to the fact there is no ongoing support for them to retain this. This seemed to really help her understand her abilities.
Throughout Asia Buddhist monks will give consultations on all topics. They will use channeling to connect with their higher selves. Information and advice comes directly from the monk's higher consciousness.
Some monks will use pendulums and read palms.
I have personally been present at exorcisms presided over by Buddhist monks.
Contacting dead people? Sure, why not? It's no big deal.
brianstalin
